Lilly

Most of this page – Thanks to D.A. :

Laws of the Salem Marine Society: With the Several Acts of the General Court …

By Marine Society at Salem.  Salem.  1873.

Page 124.  Records of Members of the Salem Marine Society.

William Lilly joined March 25, 1766.  “When the society was first formed”.  In the column for place of death, is entered “Loyalist, left Salem”.

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Early coastwise and foreign shipping of Salem: a record of the …     Essex Institute, ?Harriet Silvester Tapley – 1934

William Lilly to Newfoundland, April 23, 1767.


George Lilly, likely Wiliam’s son, mentions his father was a Loyalist:

http://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/lilly_george_7E.html

Essex Institute historical collections. v.49 (1913).  Pages 224/5/6.

A short time before the battle of Lexington, William Lilly of Salem hired young Asa Killam to go to Newfoundland to work at his trade for six months, and soon after the battle of April 19th, although under age, with his master’s consent, he went to Newfoundland with Mr. Lilly and his family.  …He remained in Newfoundland till August, 1779, laboring at his trade, not only on houses and buildings, but on British ships of war and prize vessels, and on barracks for the use of British soldiers.  During this time he was in the family and service of Mr. Lilly.

*Affidavit in the Registry of Deeds, Salem.  Essex Registry of Deeds, book 177, leaf 16.

District of Conception Bay in Newfoundland.  The Deposition of William Lilly of Harbour Grace in Newfoundland Esq., Certifyeth to whom it may concern, That in the month of April in the year 1775, about a week after the battle of Lexington when all ranks and conditions of men were in a state of distraction, and knew not where to go or what to do, Asa Killam of Salem in the Co. of Essex, then an apprentice to Mr. Herrick, my then Neighbour, who worked on my house in Salem, and being in want of a person of his occupation, I prevailed on Mr. Herrick to let him the said Killam go with me to Newfoundland to build me a house, which he accordingly did.  Mr. Henry Gardiner and his family came at the same time, at which time it was all our hopes that peace would soon be restored.  At this time Polly Leech lived in my family, and was afterwards Married to the said Asa Killam by a minister of the church of England in my presence, that as soon as an opportunity offered the said Killam took his wife and the little property he earned at his trade, and went on board the ship “Hope”, Captain Roberts, at the hazard of being taken, to return to his native country.  That during the whole time of his being in this country, except one year, he was building a House at Port de Grave in this district, he was chiefly employed by me, so that no person could be a better Judge of his disposition towards his native country than myself, although common prudence enjoined him to silence in every other place except my own house, and that he always manifested a constant and uniform attachment to his own country, and from his peaceable and engaging behaviour he was importuned by many as well as myself to tarry until the returns of peace, as the danger of such a voyage was great; But his heart and mind was fixed on his native land, so far from attaching himself to the British cause, that I am confident it never entered his thoughts, on the contrary I have overheard him say that he was sorry that he was not there to prove his attachment, that he never worked on any of the King’s works, his principle employment was House work, his attachment to Polly Leach might have commenced previous to his coming from Salem, unknown to me as she lived in my family at the time he worked at my house with his master.  The above citation is the truth, and I am happy to have it in my power to convince his opponents, that the said Asa Killam never did act in this country to my knowledge to forfeit his allegiance to the American States.  Given under my hand at Harbour Grace in Newfoundland this tenth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and five.            Signed: William Lilly.

*Mr. Killam wed Mary Leech Jan, 1779, in Newfoundland.

Page 278.

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an early Lilly reference:

24 Oct 1767

From: Gov. Hugh Palliser, Jonathan Horsnaill (St. John’s)

To: Justices, Sheriffs, Marshals, Constables, and Officers,

especially Charles Garland and Jonathan Parsons, Marshal at Harbour Grace

Arrest Jonathan Pike, William Lilley, and George Davis, now likely in Harbour Grace or Carbonear. They are to appear before the court on the stated date to answer for sundry complaints made by many poor fishermen who have served on fishing voyages in Conception Bay, been refused their wages, and are now unable to return home. A note to also proceed in the like manner against Captain Hugh Roberts.A number of fishermen are left in Conception Bay without their due wages and in distress. The disputes between the boatkeepers, merchants, and receivers of the produce of the voyage, Jonathan Pike, George Davis, William Lilley, and Hugh Roberts, about the payment of the wages cannot be heard until next season. Garland and Parsons are to arrest and detain the boatkeepers, and Pike, Davis, Lilley, and Roberts until the fishermen are taken care of. On 02 Nov 1767 Michael Gill reinforced the order to Garland and Parsons. [see p 79-80]

http://www2.swgc.mun.ca/nfld_history/Letterbook/GN2-1-A-4.htm

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This should be checked – do your own research!
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—–Original Message—–
From: anon
 
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:14 AM
To: NFLD-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [NF-ROOTS] Lillys of Newfoundland

Hello,


Some significant connections have been made in the last few years with 
respect to the Newfoundland Lilly’s.
Originally, it was thought that 3 Lilly brothers, George, William and Henry, came to Newfoundland from England in the late 1700s and settled in St. John’s, Harbour Grace and elsewhere. 

This theory does not account for a large percentage of the Harbour Grace,
Carbonear, and St. John’s Lilly’s that showed up in past census and church records. 

Recently, thanks to Bonnie Hickey and Jane Ann Mackinnon, a will of these 
brothers’ father, William Lilly, surfaced and has offered an explanation as to where most of the Newfoundland Lilly’s came from: Wales. According to his will, probated 1815, William came to Harbour Grace from Wales around 1761 and fathered over 5 boys and at least 1 girl. Several of these boys became judges, merchants, etc. 

There are still lots of Lilly’s in the province unaccounted for and to which 
I have not yet made a definitive connection. That’s where I hope you guys come in! If you’re interested in the Lilly genealogy,  or our connections to the Roberts, Chanceys, and Knights of the province, then please post a message! 

I’ll gladly share what information I have, which was mainly amassed from online church records, census/directories, and newspaper articles. 

If you have Lilly info you’d like to share or other theories as to where 
Lilly’s may have come from please let me know!

Thanks and look forward to hearing from some of you,
St. John’s
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